You could try this, which has worked exceptionally well for me for years, but the last time I tried it (on the P-47), I got a few areas where it 'speckled' and/or went chalky. I believe the Flat Clear is nothing but Gloss Clear with some amount of Flat Base in it. X designated colors have a glossy finish while XF designated colors are flat finish. Ah, so that's why I could not get my Clear Gloss to work. The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. I want to spray it gloss, apply washes and decals then a satin/flat final finish, I have used Tamiya and lifecolor acrylic paints on this ship. Any advice will be appreciated Larry. You must log in or register to reply here. I like the Tamiya Flat Clear but I also like the Citadel Purity Seal varnish. Why bother with ratios and praying for good luck? i find that after spraying a glossy protection then finishing up with a flat clear, the finish still has that shiny look to it due to the glossy protection. I cant seem to get this stuff to work correctly. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. I find 5% - 10% works, depending on the base. In this tutorial we take a look airbrushing Tamiya Acrylic PaintsFor early access to all my videos before general release and shootouts in all my videos. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Only 13 left in stock - order soon. Having read that last article, I would guess the problem is the Future - when the formula changed in the UK, I got. You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat. Sold by Aidleyco and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. Tamiya Flat Clear Spray These days high gloss is not the finish that always turns heads. I'm considering trying it out and am wondering how well it compares to Testors acrylic clear flat. RichMacer. Now I have a shiny F-16. I guess I'll bin that stuff. FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. Tamiya Clear Flat is a great place to start to get that interesting satin finish. Therefore, following an overall base coat, details can be added or picked out using enamel and/or acrylic paints. I made that mistake the first time. Painting Questions, Tutorials and Guidebooks. I guess you missed my post stating that I use MM flat acrylic. EDIT: Another tutorial for brush-painting flat colors mentioned to use a separate dry brush after every coat for absorbing the wet streaks. Post 4:54 PM - Jun 25 #2 2020-06-25T16:54. In Stock. Has anyone used this? I also agree by using Alclads flat base because it dries fast. "We have our own ammunition. Not that I can help much Terry, being a brush painter and have used Tamiya Flat for years with great results except for my GB Catalina which was a disaster and has got me skeptical about using it again. I use the Tamiya sprays over dried Tamiya acrylics all the time with no problem. You do have to be careful of it over SOME enamel paints. will i able to use tamiya xf-86 flat clear as protection on my tank? Might at … The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. If you edit the title of your thread and ask for help getting a gloss finish on cars, you might catch there attention. So i mixed 2 parts Tamiya clear, with 1 part Tamiya Flat base and 1 part thinner. As far as I'm aware, Tamiya Clear Flat is a varnish, but their Flat Base is the mixer. So about 10% -15% to Future ratio will give a dead flat finish? I mixed it 50/50 with Tamiya thinner and it went on with no problems. Is Tamiya Clear Flat relatively new? This item: TAMIYA TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml $12.29. More info: View Encycolorpedia - #ffffff. The Flat Base is designed to turn Gloss paint... flat. 290 164. Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a film of white chalk. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. I've just used that stuff on my Ta152 Terry so take a look at how it finishes. I don't use the Tamiya clears so was not to familiar with what you are useing. Try a higher psi like 20-25 and hold the airbrush farther away than you normally do. I wish I could get some Polly S/Floquil matte finish again. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. I've been using it for years with great results. Toss the flat base and get some one step flat finishing product, Dullcoat, or the acrylics mentioned above. 19K. RichMacer. You can use X-21 as a clear cote as long as you use future with it about 2/3 future with 1/3 X-21 and apply with a fine mist. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. Has anyone used Tamiya's clear flat? I think careful wet-sanding with superfine grit and spraying TS-80 clear flat as a final coat can give a better look. If you’re using repro decals (the decent ones that used to be available, not the tat that passes for them on eBay now), then lacquering over the decals – especially if they were a bit matt looking – makes them look sharper, shinier, and therefore better integrated into the finish as a whole. modelling diva. This should give a nice, streak-free surface after just few coats. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish. K.I.S.S. Spray it on in light coats. I was able to handle the model within 10 minutes but I avoid doing so for several hours and, even then, use facial tissues where I grasp the model. By combining the use of these three types of paints, the finishing of plastic models becomes simpler and more effective. You could try multiple coats, but i am sure the car guys might have some useful tips. Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80. Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. I agree, 25% max, excluding thinner. TAMIYA … Details. Tamiya gloss, but I am a bit gun-shy about trying it on a car build painted with enamels that I am near to finishing. The Purity seal because it makes the edging look much than the model on the left. I haven't used Tamiya clear, but have used old-formula Future, mixed in an old 35mm film can, with sealable lid, about 10%  for flat, 5% for satin. TeK. 687. Thanks Geo. I've always used the tamiya clears and never had an issue. Check out the list of our Forums. This is one of the few things I learned in my brief insurance man career several decades ago. To participate you must either login or register for an account. On the Bench:  Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge - 70%. More and more, modeler's are looking for the flat look. Protection being your paint won't scratch off as easily, (this is especially true for acrylic paint base coats) and presentation being glossy or flat. Being new to using Tamiya paints, I have seen some posts re. Reply. Tamiya flat clear rattle can, no thinning. I've never understood the fascination with using this  product. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. I just thin with clean water and have had no drying time issues. Flat Clear TS-80 - 100ml. The Tamiya because it brings out the red color better than the model on the right. It's very existence makes no sense. I would have thought you would paint the inside with it first, then paint over it. Post May 20, 2008 #2 2008-05-20T01:09. 'Gem' on flat surfaces (Tamiya Clear) - posted in Painting Tutorials: After trying and failing to get satisfactory results using the Citadel gem paints (soul stone blue, etc.) on flat surfaces I pulled out my Tamiya Clear paints (red, green and blue) that I had bought long ago but little used. The project was the feathers on a winged jump pack (the BA clam pack chaplain to be exact). Using a clear coat is mainly used for protection and presentation. Just to create a flat finish, I would go with some other waterbased product - like Microscale, Pollyscale, or Vallejo. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. I have a externally vented spray booth so use ordinary lacquer thinner for cleanup, but before I had the vented booth I used Windex. Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!! When airbrushing make sure to use any of the following Tamiya thinners: 81020, 81030, 81040, 81520, 87077. and I think when you mix it with paints you only use a small amount just to take off the gloss, The paint itself reminds me of a ink called "Tinting Medium" when I worked as a printer we used it instead of white ink. I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here. ForumerDeletedUser. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people.". The number 1use in Japan for flat base is to mix with X-20 for Flat Finishes, On that note Tamiya recommends you use the spray cans for flat clear coats, don't ask, I don't know why!!! Any idea why? Equally problematic were the English directions Tamiya used to provide...exactly the same as with their regular paint. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. The bottles have white labels and are a little larger than the standard model master size. Falcon, to get a nice flat finish, get a spray can of Testors Dullcoat. I've never tried it since I still have enough PollyScale flat coat but once I've run out of PollyScale will give XF-86 a bash since I also you Tamiya acrylics. I also use MM flat lacquer. Post May 20, 2008 #1 2008-05-20T00:28. It always helps to try out ur technique on a scrap piece of painted plastic first. Maybe it reacts with them. I do have a battery powered paint stirrer which might help but otherwise I mix approx half and half with x20a thinner and spray away. I didn't want to over do it and only added a few drops to a cup on future and I found that was plenty. Farbinfo. I like to try different products to see which one works best. Is there a better way to turn a gloss finish flat? But the usual two or three light coats works fine with both the gloss and flat sprays. In the past I usually just used Tamiya spray can clears such as TS 13 which have worked well for me. Tamiya X-20A thinner, and yes you can mix Tamiya Clear Gloss with Clear Flat or even Flat Base, but DO NOT use Flat base as a stand alone clear flat. I find though that the more you put on, the more chance you will have of getting a bit of chalking so small amounts are good. Imagin my dismay when the brown wash I had used floated up and made the whole figure look muddy. Carefully sand down the coat with a fine grit sand paper/ polishing cloth to cut through the refraction of the flat coat. You'll get quicker answers and probably a lot more of them. You can thin it out about 50/50. Use ACE brand non spar varnish.Or any brand of non spar varnish flat. As mentioned, I used to mix Future and Tamiya Flat Base, then Humbrol Clear Gloss with the FB after the change to the formula for Future in the UK. Not much help; but that's the two things which stood out to me. I'll try this, too. JavaScript is disabled. You are going for light mist coats, not complete coverage. What a cool look! View our. If you want an acrylic, Model Master has an acrylic gloss, semi-gloss, and flat. 25% flat base is too much?, ignoring the thinner that's 33%. Sometimes you can get unique effects combining flat parts with glossy parts. Hey everyone, I have a can of Tamiya TS-80 flat clear and right on the top of the cap it sais not to spray on decals and stickers. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. Three things you could try. It will not go well over enamels, but on acrylics it is fine. East Mids Model Club 29th Annual Show 19th MAY 2019. “Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”. TAMIYA 87131 Panel Line Accent Color Black For Plastic Model Kit $10.50. I have found no good way of getting rid of that chalky white after it appears and I've gone as far as spraying straight gloss on it. Tamiya spray paints are not affected by acrylic or enamel paints. FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. I've yet to find anything that works better for me than Alclad's matte coats, specifically 312 and 314. When I hand brush figures I put a drop of the stuff in whit val paints to keep from getting shinny spots from to many brush strokes. Not truly flat and just the right amount of sheen for me. I also use MM mixed about 50/50 and no problems at all. I glossed up my F-16 to apply the decals, then glossed again to seal. I have also tried other Xtra-acrylix Satin, & that was a disaster, so you are not alone. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. It depends which you want to use in situations. I will try this next time. 290 164. Airbrush . Re: Using Tamiya PS-55 flat clear with TS paints I've posted many times on this, as long as you use a PS paint against the lexan, and let it dry thoroughly, you can use any enamel or acrylic over the top, and it won't crack, but preparation is key also. The paint can be also thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya Lacquer Thinner. I'm merely asking about the Tamiya ratios because I have a bottle and have never tried it. I'm afraid that is going to ruin one of my builds if I keep using the gloss+Flat Base combo. Apply, let dry 15 minutes before applying another coat. TeK. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. Do NOT use the Tamiya Flat black and think you will be able to cover it with this clear finish. I used to mix my own matt or semi-matt clear coats, using a mix of 'Future' and Tamiya Flat Base, the amount of FB determining the degree of matt, from full matt, via semi-matt to semi-gloss. Apparently you paint the outside of the body, is it durable? Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a … i dont really wanna spray it with any glossy protection such as future/tamiya clear. For best results allow up to one week. Getting clear coats right is definately a 'black-art'. It will become soluble again and smear all over your fig. I use this more than … Sold by Model Merchants and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. 687. producing kits. Check out the model in the picture rotation. ForumerDeletedUser. Im thinking of painting my R91Cp flat black and was going to use the PS-55 Flat Clear to turn it matt. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. I have only recently started using Flat base with future. It's filled with paint. Name: Flat Clear: Farbe: TS-80 (85080) Typ: Lacquer: Finish: Matt (Transparent) Verpackung: Spray can (100ml) Bereich: Tamiya: Farbbetrachter (beta) Feature in beta, time to complete depends on amount of diapers I need to change :) RGB value: #ffffff. Crossed posts with Geo. It's that easy. Our community is FREE to join. As this is for a car, its a bit out of my area, i only want enough of a gloss to apply decals. The paint can be thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya X-20A Acrylic thinner. Oddly, I've had problems with the Tamiya Gloss Clear not drying completely but not the Flat Clear. I used it on a Treant figure I painted for my wife. That is Tamiya Flat Clear painted over Tamiya Orange TS12. If you have questions or problems about painting in the future, go to the Painting Forum. Like any other paint you dont want to just flood it on in one gloppy thick coat. A trick to get a better finish is to spray a mist coat of straight thinner right after the clear coat, this helps it level out nicely and get a smoother finish. I was considering trying it but will not if it has even a hint of tendency to get "chalky white". The finish will be nice and smooth and flat. Going to the one you need for answers is a lot easier and more people check out the Forums they're interested in. 100% deckend . 19K. Details. TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. I have a bottle of the Tamiya flat but have not used it. Its still makes that white powder finish all over my model and didnt really make it flat? I want to get it back to flat. I've used all 3 and they work well, use them just like any paint, no need to mess around with getting the right ratio. Hi Larry Yes, absolutely no problem. Can Tamiya X-22 clear gloss be used over enamel? 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